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You still bought the game at one point, but I guess the company's reasoning would be that it's only fair that you buy the game again or else they're losing money. (Which is obviously bullshit).

My back ground on copying started on the Atari 2600 and CPC464 but on the two i had more real games then
copied games then i got an Amiga 500 and i had about 500 games on this and only about 8 or 9 games were
real games the rest were copied then after this i got a SNES and a SWC and i only ever got 3 games for this
(super mario kart)(starfox)&(Pilotwings) anyone who ever had a SNES Coper know Y i got the 3 games
I had 740 games on Floppy Disk for the SNES then i got a PC not much to say on this then i got a SP1 and a
good 900-1000 CD's all copied but i had about 15 real games on this. then I got the Dreamcast i had 5 real
games that i got the same time as the Dreamcast and i had 50 or so copied games for it. then i got the Gamecube and i had 22 games on this all real no copied games

Now i only have the Wii DS and PS2 all my Wii games are the real thing but most of my PS2 games are copied

Now y am i telling you all this.

the cost of Atari 2600 and CPC464 games about £10 so say 100x£10=£1000
the cost of Amiga 500 games about £20 so thats 500x£20=£10000
the cost of SNES games about £50 so thats 740x£50=£37000
the cost of PS1 games about £35 so lets call that 950x£35=£33250
the cost of Dreamcast games say £30 so thats 50x£30=£1500
the cost of my PS2 games they are about £35 and i have a good 150 so thats 150x£35=£5250
then my DS games the shop price is £15-£25 so lets call it £20 so 1100x£20=£22000

that comes to £110000 NOW ASK YOUR SELF IF YOU HAD THIS SPARE ARE YOU GOING TO SPEND IT ON GAMES and stay in all day playing them OR ARE YOU GOING TO SPEND IT ON MAKING YOUR LIFE BETTER
now we know what the game companies are gona pick for us if we let them.
I like to pick for my self thanks CAN ANYONE ON HERE TELL ME IF I HAVE GOT THIS WRONG.

You act like you're brave or something by pirating $110,000 worth of games.

I download alot of NDS games, but I've already given Nintendo at least 1,500 dollars with my DS alone. I don't own that many PS2 games (just DDR Max, Max 2, Extreme, Extreme 2, Supernova, Beatmania, Pump It Up Exceed, Zone of the Enders 1 and 2, DMC3, KH2 and a few others). I've never pirated any, though.

I'll admit I've downloaded NES ROMs, mainly for purpose of using NesDS, but I also own at least 30 NES games and I've owned at least 4 NES's.

I don't see downloading games as a crime against humanity, I just don't agree with it on mass levels. I feel obligated to give them SOME money. Same with CDs. If I really love an artist and feel as if they work really hard to make original music, I'll go out of my way to buy their CDs. It's all relative.

I pay for all the hardware i use and pay for some of the software BUT i will not pay for software that costs more
than the hardware it runs on.

The start of this year i did the right thing and paid for some PC software
i got my order number for the online activation so i activated the software
All is ok till i format all my hard drives and put my OS back on the PC
i go to put this software back on and go to activate it BUT it will not
activate so i go to the website i got it from and the website say's
gone out of business this is y the software will not activate.

now y do i feel like when i do buy software i'm getting scamed

I'd buy more software if i did not feel this way.

Most companies sell their systems at a loss (for example, you may see the PS3 as expensive, but they lose 150 dollars everytime they sell a 60 GB model), so if they don't get any games, they only lose money.

Actually, on some of the games Nintendo has put in there a statement about making copies, even for archival purposes, is still againts their copyrights... Which IMHO is utter crap.

The thing that really irritates me is this:

My daughter plays Pokemon. I do too as it gives me a little commonality with her {and the mechanics of the game are interesting as well if you are willing to spend the time learning the math and the formulas}. Now, Fire Red and Leaf Green have different pokemon that you really need both of the games to get all of those from those packs. Ruby and Saphire each are short only a few pokemon that the other one doesn't have. Now the horrible aspect of all of this is that if you have Emerald, there is only 4 stupid Pokemon that you would have to buy BOTH Ruby and Saphire in order to obtain all from that series of the games. 4!!!

Now, call me a thief if you want, but I grabbed the roms, got those 4 Pokemon off of the Ruby and Saphire games, and then got rid of those roms. Yes, I am an immoral fool alas. But the corporate theft of my hard earned money simply because they know how to market a game for kiddies and then knowingly make it so that in order to get all the critters out of a game series that you would have to buy 3 games, which new were around $45 US, is more immoral.

My stand:

Good games ---> Go buy
Poor Games ---> Don't buy

If you need to try before you buy, then do so...

I think that videogames are a luxury product. I don't need to buy them to survive. And, of course, neither steal. I think the piracy is immoral.
Other thing is downloading roms you own, something that I don't understand why is illegal.

hey your ebgames/gamestop isnt like mine.
heck i showed the clerks at the local gamestop my dstt.
then i came back and delivered the dstt's they ordered through me.

btw downloading roms isnt moral if you dont own the game.
owning a flash cartridge is not immoral in any way.

edit by FAST6191- kuwanger was not responsible for a megabump- there were a few spambots- Original post:

<sarcasm>Of course downloading roms is immoral. I mean, when I download freeware, homebrew games and play them, I'm depriving poor, desperate Nintendo from money--just like when I buy used games.</sarcasm>

Trying to shoehorn the concept of morality into copyright is about as absurd as shoehorning capitalism into copyright. Perhaps I'd better consider the discussion if there was some deep, critical analysis of if the goals of copyright are being met, whether those goals are actually desires or should be modified, and how best to actually achieve those goals*. Only then would I really consider how much breaking the social contract of copyright could be, in any way, be viewed as immoral.

*I'm open to reading if anyone knows of some actual analytical work on things like the amount of copyrighted works of today versus the past, how much of that is "good" work (which itself is a difficult subject to grapple with), and how much social cost there is in the construction of those works (from economic wastes in the mechanism itself, to failures of works to be recognized even today, and the spamming of works resulting in needless and pointless overconsumption of "crap" (and resulting overproduction of "crap")). The only part I've really read any serious analysis on is the length of copyright terms.

i hate it every time someone compares downloading to stealing a car...

yeah
it actually takes a spine to steal a car

The Pokemon GBA era must of been tough. Pokemon has gotten better with their exclusives in the DS games such as Platinum and HeartGold/SoulSilver because there's the GTS/friend codes now where you can trade online and plus, you only need non-event Pokemon to obtain the National Pokedex Diploma which I've personally gotten. I do agree with having to buy games you really enjoy rather than the ones that were terrible. I have bought some games like Pokemon HeartGold and Chrono Trigger.